H: Tim – have you ever been to Wales? It must have been quite a shift culturally from your base in LA.
C: Tim’s not allowed to talk! [Laughs] He likes it a lot, he thinks the people there are the best.
T: I love it actually. I think in my mind I thought it would be the same as the rest of the UK but it really isn’t. I like it a lot, I have to say.
C: Even after living in LA for four years I don’t think anything is ever going to break through this accent. Tim thinks I sound like an alien.
T: I have never heard anyone who sounds like Cate in Wales.
C: That’s not true!
T: I swear, I haven’t. I don’t know, I can’t tell the difference. I can tell the difference between a Welsh accent and an English one, but Cate’s is stranger.
H: Tim – I know you spent a bit of time in The Fall. How did the news of Mark E. Smith’s death affect you?
T: Yeah, I was real sad. I had just left Manchester literally the day before, and it was so strange because I was thinking about him in the airport, and I saw a Manchester United poster or something – his football team…
C: No – Man City was his football team.
T: Oh, Man City is what I mean, the blue one! I don’t know about football at all. But anyway, I was thinking about him, and I had this strange moment where I thought for a second – like in a daydream – I should just not get on the plane and go visit him or something. That went through my brain for a split second and then I kind of woke from the daydream, got on the plane and left. When I landed in San Francisco I turned my phone on and then I found out that he passed away. So yeah it was really sad for me. He was always really kind to me, and I think that’s a big feat knowing that he’s gone through so many members and all that, so to know he actually liked me was very comforting.
H: That is quite an achievement, because I’ve heard so many bad stories – as well as good – but I like to cling on to the nicer anecdotes.
C: He was always very kind to me, too. When he used to come and see DRINKS he’d call us Snacks. It’s a terrible joke but the way he clung on to it was so funny: “yeah yeah I’m just here to see SNACKS, you know that band SNACKS” and so on…
T: He did it in that way where it was like I don’t give a fuck about your music but I just want to see you.
C: We were playing in the Soup Kitchen one night and this really excited kid came down to tell us that Mark E. Smith was looking for us. I’d met him before and he’d been a bit abrasive and a bit swaggering but this time he was so gentle and we embraced him and he embraced me and gave us both a kiss and it was just lovely. He was like a really sweet, bad uncle for about an hour and then he stole Tim and gave him some wise words about the Welsh. He said Welsh women are demons and never go to Wales because they’ll eat you there.